Workers, comment about your experiences with Le Nature's now.
Note: If you'd like some background and history on how this whole thing got started, see here -- Le Nature's stands AGAINST FREE SPEECH
My condolences to the people who's sweat and labor held up this company while it crumbled from the top down. Some of your fellow coworkers have already spoken up about their experiences. Whether you worked for Le Nature's or with Le Nature's, I invite you, as a worker, to express yourself here. You can do so anonymously. Whether you have good or bad things to say, you can speak up here without fearing.
Some workers have already said:
"if you only knew what went on there - they have just scratched the surface""What Podlucky did with fraud was just the tip of the iceberg when it came to his employees. Constant email threats and abusing his authority to make it clear his political choice was your choice. Even as far as having his secretary call homes of his employees anonymously to see who they were voting for. I do feel bad for the workers under the upper management who slaved under him to make a living, but this is a long deserving end to him. I hope he sees time." "your an asshole..you know this leaves 200 families with out an income..all your doing is getting your rocks off about podlucky"
"these are mean spirited people who took pleasure in making the people in their employ by constantly threatining to fire them and going out of their way to be mean""It was a very bizarre work environment""I worked in their IT Dept (i.e Computer Fag Dept)""From day one, we knew something was strange about the way they conducted themselves."Note: emphasis added by author
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 646 of 6462:21 am, u hit the nail on the head about the ligonier police. that big pussy mike matrunics acts like he is some big shot around here & he is such a little bitch prick. anybody who reads the police blotter in the echo knows how big of a joke the police r in ligonier. they wont do it but they need 2 downsize the force 2 two guys 4 the borough & the township each. the taxpayers in ligonier waste alot of money paying these morons 2 drive around & cause problems 4 the people in ligonier. there is not enough crime 2 justify the police payroll in ligonier.
matrunics used 2 get his ass beat when he was in high school. mike, remember the track bus? r u taking ur childhood frustrations out on the people of ligonier? remember how u used 2 have crushes on young girls in ligonier that r half ur age? ;) u r a class act buddy. watch urself off duty, ur liable 2 get ur ass beat again just like the old days! dont get me wrong, ur fellow swine r a bunch of fuckups 2, john berger acts like he is high & mighty then he gets off work & blows lines w/ the caddies & grounds crew from laurel valley gc. we all know what u guys do in ur spare time.
Trying to get a hold of the Phoenix group Le Natural. Where are you guys? email me lewishen@yahoo.com
To the pathetic dude still living in high school
I guess pointing out that Jonathan tried to get Coach Jones fired because he didn't consider him to be a division one prospect means that I have pegged myself "as a jealous loser that didnt have many friends in Ligonier." Please remind me. Where did Jonathan play his college football? Notre Dame? Penn State? USC? I guess Coach Jones' evaluation of Jonathan as a spoiled, overrated, selfish player was true.
Sorry dude, but I played sports against several Podlucky brothers and have known Jonathan since he was about six. I was a better athlete than Jonathan (as were about 20 people in his class). I also have about 10 times as many friends as Jonathan.
And I also was friends with the Podlucky family. I attended family events. I played pool with Mr. Podlucky. I laughed when Mrs. Podlucky would yell at him for sneaking a cigarette.
Yes, the Podlucky family has lost a lot. I'm very sorry for Mrs. Podlucky. I feel bad for Chris.
But Jonathan and Greg are getting what they brought on themselves.
By the way, real mature with the comment about DUIs. I hope you've never had a friend die because of drunken driving.
And by the way, real mature with the profanity. Real mature with the racism. Real mature with the gay slurs.
I have no doubt you are friends with Greg and Jonathan. That's what I'd expect from them (if you aren't one of them).
And please share with us what you've done since high school. Going to Bulls every Friday?
Remember folks, Le-Nature's is a private organization whose majority shareholder is Gregory J. Podlucky. If he decides he has some assets that he wants to store in a building that he owns a majority of, where is the crime? I hear all this nonsense that “if it were legitimate, why the need for a secret room?” Hmm, let’s see, I have a large collection that is very high in value, maybe I should keep it out in the open so it is a target for thieves. Or better yet, why do banks “hide” their money in safes that cannot be seen by account holders who go to the counter to cash their paycheck on Friday? Open your eyes, people! If you want to trash talk people because they have and you do not have, that is your freedom as an American, but do not slander people by saying that they are criminals when they do things any intelligent person would also do.
I guess the unintelligent will never get it.
lewishen@yahoo.com:
did you try contacting deeznutz@gofuckyourself.net?
To the pathetic dude still living in high school (you brought up high school football, remember nimrod?)
I guess pointing out that Jonathan tried to get Coach Jones fired because he didn't consider him to be a division one prospect means that I have pegged myself "as a jealous loser that didnt have many friends in Ligonier." Please remind me. Where did Jonathan play his college football? Notre Dame? Penn State? USC? I guess Coach Jones' evaluation of Jonathan as a spoiled, overrated, selfish player was true. (I guess nobody gives a fuck about Ligonier Valley's high school football program. Seems like your the one that can't let it go dude. The rest of us have moved on to 2007 you should join us. Thanks.)
Sorry dude, but I played sports against several Podlucky brothers (hmm, thats funny considering that Greg and Pat were the only ones who were ever in high school at the same time. Try again. And if you claim to know so much about Jonathan then we can only assume you are roughly the same age. Greg would have been long gone, Pat unfortunately was no longer with us, and Chris would have been in Seattle.) and have known Jonathan since he was about six. I was a better athlete than Jonathan (as were about 20 people in his class). I also have about 10 times as many friends as Jonathan. (excuse me mr. popular, you must feel really special but seeing how we will never know who you are we're going to have to assume you are making that up. by the way, where did you play college football? i want to know where star high school athletes go so i can send my kids there.)
And I also was friends with the Podlucky family. (we'll they're really lucky to have such a great friend that gets on blogs and says such kind things about them behind their back.) I attended family events. I played pool with Mr. Podlucky. I laughed when Mrs. Podlucky would yell at him for sneaking a cigarette. (really? she didnt start doing that until right before he died. the gabby most of us knew never "snuck" around to do anything. no disrespect for mr. p, but he smoked about three packs a day so it was no secret to his wife.)
Yes, the Podlucky family has lost a lot. I'm very sorry for Mrs. Podlucky. I feel bad for Chris.
But Jonathan and Greg are getting what they brought on themselves. (what did they bring on themselves anyway? a failed business? i guess that is such a fucking tragedy compared to losing a family member or four. maybe to an almighty, ultra-successful human being such as yourself, but some people value other things more. business opportunities come and go i.e. anybody that has made it big. succuess is born from failure. i guess your one of the many idiots around this town that love to see others fail. your a really great human being.)
By the way, real mature with the comment about DUIs. I hope you've never had a friend die because of drunken driving. (i haven't. thanks.)
And by the way, real mature with the profanity. Real mature with the racism. Real mature with the gay slurs. (sorry we cannot all be as perfect and holy as you are. even though we have no idea who "you" is ill try harder to be like you and talk shit behind people's back. im sure mrs. p would be so happy to hear her little track t-shirt distributor is so kind nowadays.)
I have no doubt you are friends with Greg and Jonathan. That's what I'd expect from them (if you aren't one of them). (very confusing statement, but at least i can say i defend my friends rather than tear them down on an internet blog. by the way, what would you expect? people that stick up for each other? sorry to disappoint one of ligonier's finest athletes.)
And please share with us what you've done since high school. (if you share what you've done with your life, i will too. if i tell you my business in ligonier you will surely know who i am.) Going to Bulls every Friday?(yes, you busted me. if busting me means that my wife and i do go there maybe a few times a year during the holidays and fort ligonier days to hang out with friends such as the evil jonathan and donna. is that bad? i want to make sure i meet the requirements and seek approval from one of the finest ligonier athletes ever.)
seriously man, let the past go.
How really sad some people are….
Ligonier HS dude,
I brought up the example of Jonathan trying to get Coach Jones fired to show his strange behavior at a young age and because your hero, Layne Cobaine, said that many people posting on the blog didn’t know the Podlucky family. Thus, the reference. Clear, genius.
And wow, you really impress me with the quality of your intellectual arguments when you swear. It makes me think you are what, 12.
Second, idiot, there are other sports the Podlucky brothers played besides football. There are sports they played outside of school. Why don’t you ask your hero Jonathan some time? Why don’t you ask Chris? Why don’t you ask Greg?
And also, by knowing them, you play games like pick-up basketball and football against them.
Genius, go back to my post. It doesn’t say that I played HS football with Jonathan. You assumed because you aren’t real bright and don’t pay attention to details.
Just like you assumed you knew my age because of my knowledge of the family. Again, you aren’t going to get any detective awards any time soon. Maybe a job with the Ligonier Police would be the right job for someone with your deductive skills and intelligence.
I’m not going to spend my time correcting all of your misstatements. But I will correct a few of your obvious ones:
1. I liked Pat. I liked Chris. I liked Mr. Podlucky. I liked Mrs. Podlucky. I never liked Greg. I never liked Jonathan. You see, you can be friends with part of the family without having a man crush on everyone.
2. When I was around the Podlucky family, mostly in the 1980s but I did stay in touch with some people, I was always clear on my feelings toward Jonathan and Greg. And the next time I see them I will do the same.
3. You are a fool if you think Mrs. Podlucky yelling at Mr. Podlucky over smoking was a recent event.
4. You are a fool if you think Mr. Podlucky didn’t try to respect his wife’s wishes about it.
5. I believe what Greg and Jonathan brought on themselves was not a failed business, but pending criminal charges. My opinion. I think it’s going to happen within a year. You see, when you borrow money from other people, their comes responsibility. Please review the bankruptcy court findings about what it thinks of their behavior. Please review some of the lawsuits.
6. Actually, I was very sorry to see the company fail. Sad for the people who lost their jobs. But I have little sympathy for how Greg and Jonathan conducted their business.
7. I’ll make a guess that this was a Greg posting. It has all the touches of him. Aggressive. Inaccurate. Condescending. Homophobic. Racist. I may be wrong. But that’s my guess. And just another sad attempt to blame everyone but Greg and Jonathan for what happened.
8. Finally, enjoy the company of your close “friend” Jonathan while you can—I have a feeling he’s not going to be available soon.
Not enought crime to justify the payroll? That is funny in itself aside from that it is irrelevant. People who think this way have victimitis just like a lot of people at LN. DUI's do matter adn trust me cops aren't out patrolling certian people for the fun of it. A DUI comes from the fact that you have to drink first and then drive meaning the person is 100% responsible not any cop in any town. If you do it and get caught ITS YOUR OWN FAULT.
Success in business has a lot to do with brands. When a brand becomes so popular that it sells itself it goes national and you sell a ton of product. The distribution and sales at LeNatures was force fed based on many facts that led to unprofitable sales and probably the two sets of books. The brand never caught on although if you put it on the shelf people bought it and drank it. In all fairness, I'm not sure any one brand of water would create enought brand loyalty to really drive business. So, if your Nestle, you can afford to force feed it and eventually make a profitable equation. LN business model was based on doing what Nestle did, hence all the problems. Why point that out? These weren't smart business people creating a product in an industry driven by brands. It was people that knew how financial institutions work and exploiting the loopholes to fund a train wreck. A brand can neve be built this way and the absolute largest flaw for this company was picking to play ball in the water business with other national competition that can afford to give it away for a long time.
Go back to Stoney's, at one point a very viable brand. A brand that was purchased based on loyalty. Orders came in by themselves but as trends changed Stoney's wasn't able to make the turn. Jones Brewery tried to make it a youthful brand which was impossible and the loyal customers slowly died off. The end of the brand and the end of the company as we knew it. Many companies in their same position made the turn and some even went national. Demand for regional breweres and small hand crafted product continues to soar so why couldn't the Jones Brewery make the turn?
You never dealt with people who understood brands ever at either company. Sure they had many meetings on the topic but always tried to force feed sales and distribution just to get it on the shelf. Didn't work and never will. Could I have done it or for that matter the majority of people? No...but I didn't attempt to and we all need to know our limitations which is the reason for both company failures.
What is really sad is the whole nation is mourning the death of 32 faculty and students at Virginia Tech and we have people like Rich Gazarik or Jay Silverstein, portraying himself as a Podlucky family friend. Come on people, spend your time in prayer and supplication for those innocent victims and their families. Pray that another misguided individual is preserved from repeating this tragedy. Pray for the law enforcement individuals who put their life on the line everyday. Most importantly, pray for the soldiers who are under constant attack in foreign lands. This is a GREAT country. May God Bless America. May we be a nation that unites under tragedy.
Hey above, we don't need any lessons from you on how to be a better person. Talking down to others only appeases yourself and helps nobody. I'm sure each and every person will mourn at their own personal time but the world won't stop and people won't stop thinking. Yes, its terrible and praying is the answer but its 100% irrelevant to LN. Just what we don't need, more people to tell us how to think. Do us all a favor and focus on yourself.
to 7:29 and 8:11,
let's review who you are angry at: greg, jonathan, le-nature's. quit trying to sell yourself as a family friend, you are a disgruntled ex-employee most likely fired long before anything went down there. how would you know anything about le-nature's meetings if you weren't? were you so close that they took you along for business meetings too? that must have brought back memories of your track t-shirt distribution days. considering le-nature's had a lot of local employees its not hard to write a few "fun facts" about the family and sell yourself as a friend. if you were so close and attended family events, why dont you prove it by naming some of the extended family as they are always at family events. esp. forth of july get-togethers when many people outside the family including myself were there. if you cant do that then your claim will lose even more credibility. other than that, i am not wasting anymore time responding to your loose arguments and "corporate diagnosis." they must of been doing something right to have the support of the top banks in the country. and if those banks were "duped" along with the auditing firms they were surely in on the deal. there is no way ANYBODY is smart enough to fool the banks and top auditing firms for the number of years they claim Greg did. they get hip to any schemes quickly and that was not the case here.
ps. i like the way you tried to argue your way out of the high school football and sports claims you made earlier. your stories dont hold water man. obviously you liked le-nature's enough to work for them at some point so like i said before, let go of the past.
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that is just a small sample of jay's blogs in 2007...2006 isn't any better...check the rest out for yourself...i especially like the one where he claims to have one fan...kind of shows jay's need to be popular hence the lenatures blog...i encourage "all of those" who visit this blog to check out jay's other postings to get a better idea of the kid that "you" all follow and see his wacky and juvenile antics...he seriously acts like he is a young child.
This isn't high school. Don't care who knows anyone. Fairy tales are over. Thanks for reading. I'm not Jay or know him and look at the last few days, people are here. Why doesn't everyone speak up on specific personal experiences? Come on people. Be careful what you wish for blogger.
...and those really cool yoga moves he always takes pictures of. real clever! see if you can find the one where his daddy comments on it (like 90% of the posts he does receive comments on). wow jay, your family reads your nonsense, wow!
come on 11:01...you are without a doubt jay silverstein...quit lying to "your readers."
To former Le-Natures employees, Kevin Millslagle is in Westmoreland Hospital, and was diagnosed with stomach cancer. Please keep him in your prayers.
I agree we need to spend more time praying, the family that prays together stays together. Thank you 8:55AM for encouraging us. I did not take your comment as talking down but uplifting.
ohh boy, not the split personality again
Let's have a little fun but I'll give you the good news pitthoops2, your not very good at being a fraud which is why I don't think you are a certain person and not that it matters anyway.
The word "encourage" hasn't been used in the post (I didn't really check) and you and CONCERNED used them a few posts apart.
Your not that good at being a fraud which is a good thing but I'd just wanted to point out you were the same people and if I were a betting man I'd bet on it...naw...I guarantee it.
Living in the past (and fantasy land)
It must really irritate you that someone who played pool with Mr. Podlucky, knew about his smoking habits, knew about Mrs. Podlucky's reaction, and knew about Jonathan's antics to have Coach Jones fired is posting on a blog.
You know that he's been to the Podlucky house. But who? Who would "betray" the mighty Podlucky gang by posting these things? Well, I'm not going to tell you. And I'm not going to tell you which family events, which years and who was there that I attended.
You can wonder, though. Maybe I'll be at the next family event. Maybe I'm the person you are confiding in Greg and Jonathan.
But, since neither of you is Columbo, I'll give you a few hints:
a. I was younger than Pat but older than Chris. (Clue: That must mean I graduated from Ligonier around 1982.)
b. I didn't play football. What sports could I have played? (Clue for one of them: Maybe you can go down to the football field and look. See if there is anything there that could be used for another sport. Mrs. Podlucky even helped to fund and build it.
Also, just let me correct a few things for you. Unfortunately, the LVHS education seems lost on you, particularly the reading part.
* I never said I was angry at Le*Nature. I said I had less than positive views of its management dream team of Greg and Jonathan.
* I never worked there. Sorry. After high school, I went to a good college (not one in West Virginia as some people I know). Now, I live outside of Ligonier. Think east coast.
* Please show me where I ever posted about a company meeting. Another mistake on your part. Remember, dude, reading is fundamental.
* It's not my job to do a "corporate diagnosis" of Le*Nature. I'll let the courts and federal prosecutor do that. It's too bad your heroes keep taking the fifth amendment. I'm sure they have good reasons.
* Those top banks and auditing firm who thought the company must be doing something right are being sued. It's called not doing your due diligence.
* I never claimed to have played HS football or to have gone to school with Jonathan. Again, you have a problem reading. Have you heard of a helpful publication called Highlights?
Your posting was typical Greg and Jonathan Podlucky behavior, in my opinion. Not looking at what was said. Claim it was something else. Fail to admit you are wrong. Try to discredit the source. Deny. Deny. Deny.
Greg and Jonathan, I plan to be in Ligonier soon. I really hope I get to see your mother. Maybe I'll even run into you two (unless, of course, you are locked up at the time).
But well, maybe you will have figured out who I am by then?
I hope people realize that I'm not just messing with Greg and Jonathan for fun. It's more that there are some Podlucky family members who feel what Greg and Jonathan did was disgraceful.
There are also people who were, or are, friends with Mr. Podlucky, Mrs. Podlucky, Pat and Chris who are disgusted by what you have done to the family. Mrs. Podlucky, in particular, has suffered enough.
Greg and Jonathan, please come clean, admit what you did, take your punishment. Don't you think your mother deserves it? And wouldn't it be the Christian thing to do?
Hey 9:31:
* Please show me where I ever posted about a company meeting. Another mistake on your part. Remember, dude, reading is fundamental.
You never dealt with people who understood brands ever at either company. Sure they had many meetings on the topic but always tried to force feed sales and distribution just to get it on the shelf. Didn't work and never will.
I'll learn how to read when you learn to remember your bullshit stories! Your a joke track t-shirt distributor boy. Or should I say TRACKSTAR?
Let's have a little fun but I'll give you the good news pitthoops2, your not very good at being a fraud which is why I don't think you are a certain person and not that it matters anyway.
The word "encourage" hasn't been used in the post (I didn't really check) and you and CONCERNED used them a few posts apart.
Your not that good at being a fraud which is a good thing but I'd just wanted to point out you were the same people and if I were a betting man I'd bet on it...naw...I guarantee it.
8:11 or silverstein, i should say, is at it again...he thinks he is really smart with his rectangle specs...seriously man give up on the detective gig it only makes you look foolish...you try to prove something with very weak arguments and i would think a genius like you can do better...im not sure what all of the above gibberish was suppose to "prove" but i don't think it proved what you think it did...so now i am somebody else because i used a fairly common english word?
btw i know you fairly well for being complete strangers (remember way back in 2005 when you told me that you thought it would be funny if we hung out and laughed about the review you wrote? i still think that would be really funny! who knows, maybe someday we WILL meet)...anyway...as i was saying...i know you well enough to know you did check...you believe whatever you want though...i am certainly not going to argue with you...it makes it even more fun for me if you think you know who i am and you really dont (i know it kills you that you dont know who i am, hell i could be somebody that you interact with frequently)...word of advice though...stick to blog posting with mostly homosexual pictures of yourself and your freak girlfriend...youve got a big enough following in your dad and your "one and only fan"...you are not cut out for detective work as much as you like to believe you are...anyway...im tired...you do whatever you need to do to keep your bread and butter blog rolling and ill play along so you keep getting comments...one last thing...its kind of funny how this blog always seems to die down for a few days and then seemingly picks back up with many different people on here at the same time...dont you think so jay? they all get the urge to comment at the same time? what are the odds? let me know your thoughts.
Last posting--HS dude
Sorry buddy, but that sales posting wasn't from me. Oops. Your bad. Read my other postings. You'll see I never said anything about working in sales or marketing. In fact, think health care (another clue).
I was clear from the start I only knew the Podlucky family personally, not professonally.
Clue: When you go to a blog and see "anonymous," that's not his name. And all the postings aren't from the same person. You'll figure it out.
And, wow, you figured out one of the sports I played. Very smart. I hope it didn't take you too long at the football field.
And please post whatever you want about me. I posted what I had to say about Greg and Jonathan and am moving on. I'm glad that they know that not everyone in their family (or family friends) believe much of what they say. In fact, some really resent them, almost as much as their former employees.
pitthoops2, Not Jay or know him, proved it when I had the blog shut down and changed when some pea brain posted the bank account numbers of other companies. I even point out the earlier posting that Jay missed.
Mostly enjoy just having fun with you when you start posting under different names and answering yourself back. Remember you used...(three dots) on all your different personalities and I pointed out to change it. My guess is your on some damage control team with your irrelevant postings and blah blah postings.
Noboy cares about all the crap you brought to the table about the personal lifes of the family members going back to HS. Nobody cares about your conspiracy theories relating to the downfall of the company and people getting DUI's are the cops fault. It never pleased me to read and I never wrote any personal attacks here, I only stuck to my opinions. Your probably the same person going back and forth with someone over who played pool with who.
My point? You are doing more damage by trying to do damage control. Your reactions and writings are "knee jerk" and its encouraging others to go on about the irrelevant personal lives of others. I'm sure the family in question would really much rather you stop pushing people to write more about them.
silverstein (7:01am) dotdotdot i am in no way concerned how i appear to YOU of all people or anybody else on this blog for that matter dotdotdot i think it is so funny YOU would tell ME that i need to worry how i appear to the blog dotdotdot have you even seen your posts? do you do them while you are unconscious? you are the epitome of loser and you tell ME how to act? i don't think so pal dotdotdot and by the way i think it’s really suspicious how nobody on this blog ever admits to being jay silverstein dotdotdot i can’t say i blame jay for not admitting its him posting the nonsense on here but really you make yourself look like the moron when you start your comments off with the ever-so-popular "i am not jay, nor do i know him..." line of bullshit dotdotdot i know you want to make yourself look cool to everybody by making them think you don’t write on here but we all know you are too damn opinionated to keep your mouth shut for even a minute dotdotdot if others want to be fooled that’s fine but i'm not dotdotdot i know nobody else would take the time to criticize me because the only person i attack is jay dotdotdot i don’t discuss the company that kick started this blog, or the recent high school girl fight, or anything else on here dotdotdot all i do is bust jay for being the way he is which is really gay and i'm not sure who can argue with that
pitthoops2, your right I'm Jay. Hey let me ask you, when all the books said that the regional brewers product demand was going to soar in the late 80's, early 90's were you at those meetings when Stoney's came out with Eureka (you know pronounced just like the vaccuum cleaner company). Like I said, read the right books, didn't understand marketing....case in point and I'm not Jay or know him. Maybe Jay was following Stoney's back then, ha ha. See what I mean about you keeping this thing going. Your causing way more damage that you ever helped.
Did anything you just wrote make any sense? I'm just wondering because I'm pretty sure that was another one of the infamous weak arguments we've all grown accustom to around here. I knew we'd get the notorious "I'm not Jay, nor do I know Jay" speech. Good argument. If you think this is "damaging" I think I'll keep it up.
Your right, I'm not into damaging, just my opinion but I'm not Jay. People: In the late 1980's and early 90's, regional brewing companies were positioned to creat demand vs. the Bud and Coors of the world. The predictions held true and many regional brewers sales exploded and some went national. To this day, they profit. The absolute best example is obvious but there are many, many more and a lot in PA.
Stoney's came out with Eureka for this period and it bombed. Who was behind it? You know. Their brand could have been positioned perfectly but they didn't have the know how and it continued to be limited to the VFW (god bless them) and the sportsman clubs of the world, for lack of words. They 100% missed the boat on being a part of the hand crafted, brewing boom that took place in the USA and still holds.
There were and are so many obvious mistakes but it is easy to criticize and a good plan tomorrrow is better than a perfect plan today.
So, if your reading this blog probably going out to about 8 people, my last comment about Eureka bombing was related to this. It was Stoney's attempt to drive sales after reading a marketing report and it was led by who else. I guess my real point is that this is strike three for LN managment. In the 70's Xerox tried to make and market computers and IBM tried to make and market copiers.....both failed. Accountants should stay accounts.
Hey Pitthoops2...being the gambler that you are (more in your younger days), want to keep going?
Hey Pitthoops2...being the gambler that you are (more in your younger days), want to keep going?
yeah i'm game...let's keep going...i love watching you make meaningless points about a brewery lenatures had nothing to do with...im not sure who you think pitthoops2 (me) is but i can assure you with every thread of my being it is not who you think it is (greg or jonathan podlucky)...but you are doing a fine job making yourself look really stupid...i did some homework real quick on the tribune-review's newspaper archive and it appears gabby and sandy podlucky bought out greg podlucky's stake in jones brewing in 1988...way before eureka was created...just goes to show that you can learn a lot about people through news archives silverstein...thats how you are pretending to be somebody close to the situation...real clever...maybe i should pretend that i am related to ben rothelisberger by reading a bunch of articles about him, his super bowl, and his bike accident...then i can start a blog about him and pretend we are tight...oh wait thats not very original...jay already did that with lenatures except he talks shit about things he couldn't even begin to understand...thats what jay does best...protest against companies...dress up like a fag...and date ugly girls...another one of your jewbag attempts at covering up your identity has been foiled...your turn
ps. dont expect a reply until tomorrow afternoon...some of us have a life and we go out with actual girls during the weekend...not sit around our one bedroom apartment in cambridge, ma with the freak thing you call a girl/girlfriend and take stupid pictures of ourselves in ninja turtle outfits...later beotch
Sorry, it wasn't before eureka which I'm sure the trib didn't make note of...not the point anyway. There are many obvious related points to LeNatures and Jones brewery and the funny thing is, it's a hell of a lot easier to brand beer than water.
The main point is neither owner really knew their product or limitations and that is a fact. Both industries swallowed both owners.
Sorry, it wasn't before eureka which I'm sure the trib didn't make note of...not the point anyway. There are many obvious related points to LeNatures and Jones brewery and the funny thing is, it's a hell of a lot easier to brand beer than water.
The main point is neither owner really knew their product or limitations and that is a fact. Both industries swallowed both owners.
Man get the fuck out of here. You sound like such a dumbass. LNI was ranked in the top 30 beverage companies in consecutive years (2003, 2004, and 2005) by Beverage World magazine. I was just in New York this past week and I noticed the LNI billboard is still operating in Times Square. It is absolutely gorgeous and is grouped with all the big players. I was talking to a friend who works at one of the reality companies that own the Times Square properties and he said that the waiting list (based on current 10-year leases) is 50+ years and has been for years. I wonder how such a shitty company managed to contract the prime location.
Make sure you do your homework a little better next time concerning Greg being at Jones when Eureka was created. The true and, more importantly, verified story is that Greg was building a stand-alone facility for a new brand that was being formulated/marketed in conjunction with a private consultant outside of JBC. After construction had already begun on the project, Gabby decided that he did not want to work with the consultant (he felt as though he could create a better product on his own without investing money into a consultant, aka the Eureka project) and Greg was forced to shut the project down. It was at that time Greg decided to leave JBC and start LNI with capital obtained by Gabby's buyout of Greg's stake in JBC (keep in mind that Jones Brewing was a profitable business in the mid-late 80s; I wonder if there is any coincidence the place fell apart after Greg left). The consultant who was working with Greg subsequently took his R&D to a small brewery in Pottsville, PA called D.G. Yuengling & Son. DGYS bought the rights to the R&D, reformulated their current lager, and ran a successful marketing campaign that catapulted them onto the national scene. I know the consultant’s name but as a professional courtesy I will not release it on this blog. If you need some proof elsewhere, drive down to JBC in Smithton right now. The skeleton of the half-built facility lies along the banks of Yough River.
Please bring your A-game next time you want to play ball. Lying can only get you so far in debate.
Of course their could be a billboard in NYC...hundreds of millions of dollars are supposedly missing. All you did was support my facts that neither company owner knew their limitation or understood branding. I'm not arguing that you don't know the history of the company like you earlier denied, I know you are close to the situation.
The two company life spans and downfall parallel each other closely and the owners were father and son. Your facts have nothing to do with my or anyone else's opinions and if it makes you feel better I'm sure you know much more than I do.
The beer business is small fraternity and Stoney's thought they would just change how everyone else does things and it bit them in the ass. Probably the same reaons Mr. Podlucky was successful, led to his business downfall. Another similiarity with Greg who probably could have been very successful based on his abilities. It was the same fearless disrespect to everyone else that cost him.
Neither knew anything about branding. Stoney's was in a good position with the right changes could have been the next small PA brewery to go bigtime. They tried to put a Toyota emblem on a 77' Ford LTD after reading a marketing book. LeNatures just picked the wrong industry as there is absolutely no brand loyalty to water and success is based on distribution. Distribution is bought at the grocery and c-store levels. It was a backwards equation for the getgo with a bright, carasmatic leader. Their only hope was a buyout or the equation would have needed more funding. My guess is they were at that point. However, were Greg and Mr. Podlucky talented in a lot of ways? Absolutely, neither knew their limits.
I hold true to backing off any of the criminal charges...innocent until proven guilty and I don't wish ill will on anyone. Maybe both companies mistakes can help others.
silverstein (9:10am)...i hate to rain down on your parade but the 3:43am post was not from me...granted i was still up and doing very well ;)...like i mentioned yesterday i would not be responding until now...however it doesnt look like there is anything to respond to...i see you found a new pal to battle :( but from the last few posts it doesnt look like your dong so well...too bad
Nice try, its the parenthesis now. Ha Ha. Your right I'm losing and I followed Stoneys in the 90's.
Can anyone substantiate the DOJ investigation into Leo Strine and Skadden Arps? It may be preliminary.
Grabbing for staws? We meet yet another persona.
Does anyone know what happened to Grant Street Bank? Does anyone know what happened to all the tax returns that were shredded at Mellon?
In Basile, a tax preparation firm took a kickback from Mellon Bank for arranging that customers seeking an advancement on their tax refunds use the bank. The question in the case (after federal TILA claims fell away) was whether H&R Block was the agent of Basile. If it was, then (obvious) Block violated its duty of loyalty by not disclosing the referral and profit-sharing relationship.
Does anyone know about the kickback?
I searched the Trib and no results; I wonder why it was not reported to the public?
You know it would be a real shame if any of the Podluckys were on this site---they need to be working real jobs to pay all the subcontractors that they haven't paid yet, surely Karla can pull in some money holding down someone oops, I meant holding down a job----right?
Maybe if GM, traced ISP, would have completed their work at LNI properly, there could have been more profits to go around.
Delete GM and insert GMI.
I heard the Clinton's are gunning for Gazarik!
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Suggestion: on the main page, change the phrase 'hot topic' to 'only topic.'
Jay your blog has lost it's focus
Hi. Since the comments aren't coming from Le Nature's workers anymore, I'm disabling comments for now. If you are a worker or share sentiments with the workers, for now you can email your comments to lenatures-workers at jaysilver dot net. I'm talking to some people about future plans.
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